# ARE Live: PjM Virtual Workshop Exercise '21 **URL:** \ **Category:** ARE Live\ **Created:** [May 17, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055 "2021-05-17T16:22:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![monicafitzpatrick](https://blackspectacles.com/uploads/images/1.png) [@monicafitzpatrick](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/monicafitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/21 "2021-05-20T17:12:42Z")
Yes! It will be uploaded shortly after to our Youtube, Stitcher, & iTunes in addition to being available on the Black Spectacles website with all the other ARE Lives! Link to website below: [https://www.blackspectacles.com/podcast](https://www.blackspectacles.com/podcast) ---
**Author:** ![clifford.marvin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/clifford.marvin/32/510_2.png) [@clifford.marvin](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/clifford.marvin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/22 "2021-05-20T17:12:44Z")
Never can be eliminated ---
**Author:** ![monicafitzpatrick](https://blackspectacles.com/uploads/images/1.png) [@monicafitzpatrick](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/monicafitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/23 "2021-05-20T17:13:13Z")
Hi @ngolban welcome to the ARE Community! ---
**Author:** ![coachchrishopstock](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/coachchrishopstock/32/1662_2.png) [@coachchrishopstock](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/coachchrishopstock)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/24 "2021-05-20T17:13:35Z")
@clifford.marvin yes it can! If all you know is that the architect provides estimates at some point, you can eliminate ‘never’ and guess between the remaining 3. ---
**Author:** ![lkholdmann](https://blackspectacles.com/uploads/images/13.png) [@lkholdmann](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/lkholdmann)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/25 "2021-05-20T17:14:47Z")
A note for everyone who may not know about this (relating to Strikeout): If you triple click on text, or the text of one of the answer options, it’ll highlight the entire paragraph (entire answer). This makes it a lot quicker to select the entire answer and then hit Strikeout (or highlight). ---
**Author:** ![tkwilliams](https://blackspectacles.com/uploads/images/16.png) [@tkwilliams](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/tkwilliams)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/26 "2021-05-20T17:15:28Z")
thanks I missed that first portion! ---
**Author:** ![clifford.marvin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/clifford.marvin/32/510_2.png) [@clifford.marvin](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/clifford.marvin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/27 "2021-05-20T17:15:53Z")
choice d is too vague…I would have eliminated it ---
**Author:** ![clifford.marvin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/clifford.marvin/32/510_2.png) [@clifford.marvin](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/clifford.marvin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/28 "2021-05-20T17:17:11Z")
I like as an additional service ---
**Author:** ![clifford.marvin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/clifford.marvin/32/510_2.png) [@clifford.marvin](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/clifford.marvin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/29 "2021-05-20T17:17:44Z")
I see the answer is Supplemental, but on the short AIA form, you can itemize “additional services.” ---
**Author:** ![coachchrishopstock](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/coachchrishopstock/32/1662_2.png) [@coachchrishopstock](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/coachchrishopstock)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/30 "2021-05-20T17:18:18Z")
@clifford.marvin Darion is going to get to that shortly - the different between supplemental and additional is important! ---
**Author:** ![clifford.marvin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/clifford.marvin/32/510_2.png) [@clifford.marvin](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/clifford.marvin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/31 "2021-05-20T17:18:48Z")
“if identified” is what is throwing me ---
**Author:** ![clifford.marvin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/clifford.marvin/32/510_2.png) [@clifford.marvin](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/clifford.marvin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/32 "2021-05-20T17:21:23Z")
thank you! now I understand the difference! ---
**Author:** ![clifford.marvin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/clifford.marvin/32/510_2.png) [@clifford.marvin](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/clifford.marvin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/33 "2021-05-20T17:21:51Z")
this one completely baffled me ---
**Author:** ![matt2](https://blackspectacles.com/uploads/images/9.png) [@matt2](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/matt2)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/34 "2021-05-20T17:22:47Z")
this question threw me ---
**Author:** ![coachchrishopstock](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/coachchrishopstock/32/1662_2.png) [@coachchrishopstock](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/coachchrishopstock)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/35 "2021-05-20T17:23:38Z")
@matt2 this is another question type that architects studying for the ARE probably don’t do a whole lot of in their day jobs, so I can understand the confusion. I hope Darion going through it right now is helpful!! ---
**Author:** ![clifford.marvin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/clifford.marvin/32/510_2.png) [@clifford.marvin](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/clifford.marvin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/36 "2021-05-20T17:26:13Z")
I guessed how to do this correctly ---
**Author:** ![monicafitzpatrick](https://blackspectacles.com/uploads/images/1.png) [@monicafitzpatrick](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/monicafitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/37 "2021-05-20T17:26:38Z")
Nice!! ---
**Author:** ![clifford.marvin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/clifford.marvin/32/510_2.png) [@clifford.marvin](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/clifford.marvin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/38 "2021-05-20T17:28:13Z")
You have to assume the costs listed in the question are per square foot. Will NCARB include that? ---
**Author:** ![coachchrishopstock](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/coachchrishopstock/32/1662_2.png) [@coachchrishopstock](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/coachchrishopstock)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/39 "2021-05-20T17:29:29Z")
@clifford.marvin if they do, you should use your knowledge of material cost estimating to correctly assume that they’re talking about a cost per square foot for EIFS. ---
**Author:** ![clifford.marvin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/clifford.marvin/32/510_2.png) [@clifford.marvin](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/clifford.marvin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055/40 "2021-05-20T17:33:41Z")
Another reason you can eliminate d is that if all the bids exceed the cost of work estimate, then the Contractors DID adjust their bids. [Previous page](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/are-live-pjm-virtual-workshop-exercise-21/3055.md?page=3)