# Construction Manager

**URL:** <https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/construction-manager/2795>\
**Category:** Project Management\
**Created:** [March 25, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/construction-manager/2795 "2021-03-25T13:08:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![ylouka](https://blackspectacles.com/uploads/images/26.png) [@ylouka](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/ylouka)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/construction-manager/2795/1 "2021-03-25T13:08:16Z")

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![highlighted question CM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/blackspectacles/original/1X/6865d7adee9d7ed52d4c5373bc9a05fc13c90113.jpeg)  
Can you please explain the difference between both circled diagrams?  
I understand it is a CM delivery method, which could be either adviser or constructor, but why is there a relationship (line) between the CM and Architect, doesn’t the architect get hired by the owner in both cases?  
Thank you

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**Author:** ![coachdarionziegler](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/coachdarionziegler/32/1272_2.png) [@coachdarionziegler](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/coachdarionziegler)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/construction-manager/2795/2 "2021-03-29T20:38:16Z")

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Hi @ylouka ,

The architect will be hired by the owner in either a CM as constructor or CM as advisor type project delivery. In CM as agent the architect might be hired by the CM. I think Mike was perhaps focusing more on diagraming how communications might work in this lecture – I know it has given me pause in the past.

I recommend checking out [AIAContract.org](http://AIAContract.org) as the best and most accurate resource for understanding project delivery and contract relationships for each type. I know I spoke about this link a few times during the workshop and spammed the chat with it, but I really do think it’s the best resource I’ve found for understanding project delivery!

> **[Contract Relationship Diagrams - ACD Help](https://help.aiacontracts.org/aia-contract-relationship-diagrams/#conventional)**
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> AIA Contract Document Relationship Diagrams explain the relationships between AIA contracts and how they work together within each project delivery model.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/blackspectacles/original/1X/e913f1970ff510ce57df301294e616e562a339fe.png)  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/blackspectacles/original/1X/67cb67e1dd395f82604102086b1dd80d5571296f.png)

Hope this helps!  
-Darion

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**Author:** ![ylouka](https://blackspectacles.com/uploads/images/26.png) [@ylouka](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/ylouka)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/construction-manager/2795/3 "2021-03-30T00:22:14Z")

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Thank You

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**Author:** ![jamiejang](https://blackspectacles.com/uploads/images/5.png) [@jamiejang](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/jamiejang)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/construction-manager/2795/4 "2023-01-31T13:40:56Z")

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Thank you so much for this link. I’m finding a bit of a discrepancy between this and Figure 9.3 of The Architect’s Handbook - which doesn’t show the moment in which a constructor contract is determined for the CM-advisor delivery method.

 ![Figure9.3_TAH](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/blackspectacles/original/2X/a/a72f9db2e3b8a20e0bd40c667fff13bb3b491fd6.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![coachchrishopstock](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/community.blackspectacles.com/coachchrishopstock/32/1662_2.png) [@coachchrishopstock](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/coachchrishopstock)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/construction-manager/2795/5 "2023-01-31T14:24:54Z")

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Hi @jamiejang , thanks for writing in!  
CM adviser is kind of a quasi-delivery method - note that AHPP (15th edition, p. 702) specifically says that CM adviser is not a delivery method _per se._ Instead, CMs who act as an advisor to the owner can be a part of plenty of delivery methods - DBB, DNB, DB, etc. All it means is that the owner has a separate entity, with whom they have a contract, who advises them throughout the project.  
Because of this - AHPP figure 9.3 can’t show when the contract for construction is determined with a CM-adviser, because it can vary.  
I hope that helps and good luck on your next exam!

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**Author:** ![jamiejang](https://blackspectacles.com/uploads/images/5.png) [@jamiejang](https://community.blackspectacles.com/u/jamiejang)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.blackspectacles.com/t/construction-manager/2795/6 "2023-01-31T14:36:14Z")

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That helps a lot - thank you Chris. Interesting that the SC and $ are listed in CM-advisor but C is not. Anyways, you clarified it for me - thanks!
